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The following item is contributed by an unhappy tax payer concerned about the current direction of School District 46. They raise a number of significant issues that we feel are worth dialog. If we refuse to challenge the current system we become victim to unreasonable taxation without representation. Stand up and be heard!!
School District 46 is promoting a bond referendum to finance the construction of a new school building. They want you to think this referendum will cost you nothing. Something for nothing? Think again!
School District 46 has a history of misleading taxpayers. In 2002 District 46 put a referendum on the ballot requesting an increase in the tax rate of $0.50 per $1,000 of a home’s assessed value. They said the tax rate increase of $0.50 would take the district out of debt and would cover the district’s revenue needs for the next ten years. The District based $0.50 request upon the existing tax cap laws, the District’s expected growth in revenues, and its plan to keep expenditures increases under 5% per year. The plan made sense. Keeping increases in expenses at 5% corresponded to the revenue the district could expect under the tax laws. They told the public that if an owner of $200,000 home would pay an additional $100 per year in taxes, the district’s financial condition would be resolved.
The community approved the referendum. But when the District went to file with the county, the county clerk implemented the referendum without regard to the tax cap. This meant the district could move the tax rate beyond the $0.50 per $1,000. The district exploited the opportunity and went well beyond what the voters approved, causing the tax rate to increase $0.85 per $1,000, not the $0.50 advertised. The owner of a $200,000 home now pays an additional $170 per year, a whopping 70% more than what the voters approved! And there is one more increase to come in this year’s taxes thanks to their 2005-2006 budget and levy.
“Since 2000, taxpayers in District 46 have been gouged.”
-Northwest Herald 11/18/2005
Since the 2002 referendum, the district continues to ignore what the voters approved and continues to levy the maximum $0.85 per $1,000. Each year District 46 has a choice: to do the right thing and keep spending so they levy only enough to be at the $0.50 per $1,000 increase, or “tax to the max.” When faced with the same situation, our neighboring school board in Huntley made a different choice. Huntley chose to respect what the voters understood they approved and set their spending and tax levy to the amount the voters approved. Huntley’s school board did this “to keep their credibility with the community.”
Tax and Spend—It has to End!
District 46 also has not kept its word in fulfilling their 2002 adopted resolution of keeping increases in expenses at 5%. From 2002-2004 the cost per student has increased 30% while the number of students during that time dropped by 40 children. The school tax rate per $100 of property valuation increased 25% during that time and the school’s spending resulted in a 30% increase in per-student operating cost. District 46 collected $4,982,298 in 2000 and $9,099,896 in 2004—an 82% increase in tax dollars collected from our community. Where did the money go?
The district increased administration payroll (adding an assistant principal in the elementary school and an assistant superintendent position). I’m glad we expanded our administration so much to handle the 40 fewer children over the 2002-2004 period. (they did not to mention adding administrators when they asked us for more money during the 2002 referendum.) But most of the money went into salary increases for both administrators and teachers. From 2001-2005 salary increases are 42% for teachers and administrators. From 2004-2005 teachers and administrators had salary increases ranging from 5% to 51%. WOW! Cost of living was less than 3% during the same year! A salary chart is in another document on this site detailing the increases. (Take a look at the teacher/administrator salary database on the website www.thechampion.org to see exactly what everyone got.) And the new school building design already has an office for another assistant principal. We will have a superintendent, assistant superintendent, two principals, two assistant principals, huge salary increases for teachers and administrators…WHEN WILL IT STOP???
And if you hear the usual response “you have to pay for a good education” and “a good school increases your property value”, think about the fact since the last referendum District 46 has been placed on “Academic Watch” in 2004 by the state of Illinois and over the last three years state test scores in the school have declined. The school is a year behind other area schools in math for students moving on to high school. Sure glad they all got good raises!
Now District 46 is asking the community to believe them again. And they are misleading the community again. They tell you that this bond referendum will not cause a tax rate increase. Don’t confuse the fact that your tax rate won’t go up with the actual money you pay in taxes. Your taxes will most assuredly go up. District 46 is counting on the value of homes to go up a lot. When they tell you you’re the referendum is tax rate neutral, here is the math to use to figure out what it will cost you:
$0.24 x More A$$essed value of your home = Higher tax $$$ that we pay
Another misleading statement has to do with the land. In 2005, District 46 told the community the developer of Tall Grass “was donating” and “was giving” the land to the school (see the Shareholders Report for 2005). This development was a great deal for the school. Now when you look at the referendum language, the school is, in fact, buying the land at market value. They are buying the land from the developer, not by expending any cash but by crediting some of the developer’s impact fees. That is a far cry from “giving.”
The bond referendum only covers the construction of a school building, not the staffing and operation. They publish information on the tax neutral bond rate but don’t publish any detailed numbers on the increased operating costs. Probably because when you calculate 10-13% annual increases in costs-per-student coupled with the additional students, you run out of money real fast. When asked about money to cover the staffing and operation, they talk about transition fees (one time fees) and claim they cannot forecast past the next five years, avoiding the question. Funny…they can forecast the number of children over 10-15 years but not the expenses of operating the school. What this means is that we can expect a substantial increase in taxes in the near future because once the new school is built, they will need more money to run it. In a District that is taxing and spending like District 46, it won’t take long.
What should we do
It is true that our school will be overcapacity at some point in the future so we have to do something. Our community now pays the second highest school tax rate in McHenry County. If we are not careful, we’ll make it to the highest level. The solution has to be a fair to the school and we taxpayers who don’t have kids. First, we should not adopt a referendum this year. There is no pressing need. From 2002-2005 the number of students increased from 1048 to 1054. The expectations of overcapacity by 2008 are exaggerated. We should realize we have time to look at some options:
Wait a year or two to see District 46 will live up to its last referendum and set their tax levies such that they only tax the community the $0.50 increase that was approved. LET THEM LOWER OUR TAXES TO THE $0.50 INCREASE WE APPROVED BEFORE WE APPROVE ANYTHING ELSE!
Wait a year or two to see if District 46 can live up to its 2002 Adopted Resolution/Promise to keep spending increases at no more than 5% per year. If the District continues increasing spending per student at over 10% per year like the last three years, we will face another costly education referendum in a few years.
Wait a year or two until the District’s bonding power is in better shape and we have less reliance on premium bonds (a more expensive form of financing). Heavily mortgaging our future is a BAD idea.
Wait a year or two to see if the new impact fees and transition fees survive legal challenges. If the new village ordinances on impact fees and transition fees fall to a legal challenge, the taxpayers will be left holding the bag. There is still a legal challenge outstanding from Berian Builders over the existing impact fees so it is very possible there may be challenges to these new fees (and these fees are the key to the District’s financing). If we take on the debt and don’t have these levels of fees, the money to pay the debt comes from the taxpayers.
Wait a year or two to explore consolidation with Crystal Lake. Consolidation could help spread costs across residential, commercial, and industrial tax bases and it has worked well with the area high schools. As developers move in along Route 31, there will be an increase in children for both Crystal Lake and Prairie Grove schools. Merging with Crystal Lake makes sense for both districts. The State of Illinois has legislation that provides grants to facilitate school district mergers as they have recognized the heavy tax burden small school districts place on a community. But taking on a lot of debt now will make merging with our school less attractive to another district.
District 46 wants you to believe this referendum will cost you nothing because it is tax rate neutral. Tax Rate neutral is not tax neutral. Something for nothing? Think again!
School District 46 is promoting a bond referendum to finance the construction of a new school building. They want you to think this referendum will cost you nothing. Something for nothing? Think again!
School District 46 has a history of misleading taxpayers. In 2002 District 46 put a referendum on the ballot requesting an increase in the tax rate of $0.50 per $1,000 of a home’s assessed value. They said the tax rate increase of $0.50 would take the district out of debt and would cover the district’s revenue needs for the next ten years. The District based $0.50 request upon the existing tax cap laws, the District’s expected growth in revenues, and its plan to keep expenditures increases under 5% per year. The plan made sense. Keeping increases in expenses at 5% corresponded to the revenue the district could expect under the tax laws. They told the public that if an owner of $200,000 home would pay an additional $100 per year in taxes, the district’s financial condition would be resolved.
The community approved the referendum. But when the District went to file with the county, the county clerk implemented the referendum without regard to the tax cap. This meant the district could move the tax rate beyond the $0.50 per $1,000. The district exploited the opportunity and went well beyond what the voters approved, causing the tax rate to increase $0.85 per $1,000, not the $0.50 advertised. The owner of a $200,000 home now pays an additional $170 per year, a whopping 70% more than what the voters approved! And there is one more increase to come in this year’s taxes thanks to their 2005-2006 budget and levy.
“Since 2000, taxpayers in District 46 have been gouged.”
-Northwest Herald 11/18/2005
Since the 2002 referendum, the district continues to ignore what the voters approved and continues to levy the maximum $0.85 per $1,000. Each year District 46 has a choice: to do the right thing and keep spending so they levy only enough to be at the $0.50 per $1,000 increase, or “tax to the max.” When faced with the same situation, our neighboring school board in Huntley made a different choice. Huntley chose to respect what the voters understood they approved and set their spending and tax levy to the amount the voters approved. Huntley’s school board did this “to keep their credibility with the community.”
Tax and Spend—It has to End!
District 46 also has not kept its word in fulfilling their 2002 adopted resolution of keeping increases in expenses at 5%. From 2002-2004 the cost per student has increased 30% while the number of students during that time dropped by 40 children. The school tax rate per $100 of property valuation increased 25% during that time and the school’s spending resulted in a 30% increase in per-student operating cost. District 46 collected $4,982,298 in 2000 and $9,099,896 in 2004—an 82% increase in tax dollars collected from our community. Where did the money go?
The district increased administration payroll (adding an assistant principal in the elementary school and an assistant superintendent position). I’m glad we expanded our administration so much to handle the 40 fewer children over the 2002-2004 period. (they did not to mention adding administrators when they asked us for more money during the 2002 referendum.) But most of the money went into salary increases for both administrators and teachers. From 2001-2005 salary increases are 42% for teachers and administrators. From 2004-2005 teachers and administrators had salary increases ranging from 5% to 51%. WOW! Cost of living was less than 3% during the same year! A salary chart is in another document on this site detailing the increases. (Take a look at the teacher/administrator salary database on the website www.thechampion.org to see exactly what everyone got.) And the new school building design already has an office for another assistant principal. We will have a superintendent, assistant superintendent, two principals, two assistant principals, huge salary increases for teachers and administrators…WHEN WILL IT STOP???
And if you hear the usual response “you have to pay for a good education” and “a good school increases your property value”, think about the fact since the last referendum District 46 has been placed on “Academic Watch” in 2004 by the state of Illinois and over the last three years state test scores in the school have declined. The school is a year behind other area schools in math for students moving on to high school. Sure glad they all got good raises!
Now District 46 is asking the community to believe them again. And they are misleading the community again. They tell you that this bond referendum will not cause a tax rate increase. Don’t confuse the fact that your tax rate won’t go up with the actual money you pay in taxes. Your taxes will most assuredly go up. District 46 is counting on the value of homes to go up a lot. When they tell you you’re the referendum is tax rate neutral, here is the math to use to figure out what it will cost you:
$0.24 x More A$$essed value of your home = Higher tax $$$ that we pay
Another misleading statement has to do with the land. In 2005, District 46 told the community the developer of Tall Grass “was donating” and “was giving” the land to the school (see the Shareholders Report for 2005). This development was a great deal for the school. Now when you look at the referendum language, the school is, in fact, buying the land at market value. They are buying the land from the developer, not by expending any cash but by crediting some of the developer’s impact fees. That is a far cry from “giving.”
The bond referendum only covers the construction of a school building, not the staffing and operation. They publish information on the tax neutral bond rate but don’t publish any detailed numbers on the increased operating costs. Probably because when you calculate 10-13% annual increases in costs-per-student coupled with the additional students, you run out of money real fast. When asked about money to cover the staffing and operation, they talk about transition fees (one time fees) and claim they cannot forecast past the next five years, avoiding the question. Funny…they can forecast the number of children over 10-15 years but not the expenses of operating the school. What this means is that we can expect a substantial increase in taxes in the near future because once the new school is built, they will need more money to run it. In a District that is taxing and spending like District 46, it won’t take long.
What should we do
It is true that our school will be overcapacity at some point in the future so we have to do something. Our community now pays the second highest school tax rate in McHenry County. If we are not careful, we’ll make it to the highest level. The solution has to be a fair to the school and we taxpayers who don’t have kids. First, we should not adopt a referendum this year. There is no pressing need. From 2002-2005 the number of students increased from 1048 to 1054. The expectations of overcapacity by 2008 are exaggerated. We should realize we have time to look at some options:
Wait a year or two to see District 46 will live up to its last referendum and set their tax levies such that they only tax the community the $0.50 increase that was approved. LET THEM LOWER OUR TAXES TO THE $0.50 INCREASE WE APPROVED BEFORE WE APPROVE ANYTHING ELSE!
Wait a year or two to see if District 46 can live up to its 2002 Adopted Resolution/Promise to keep spending increases at no more than 5% per year. If the District continues increasing spending per student at over 10% per year like the last three years, we will face another costly education referendum in a few years.
Wait a year or two until the District’s bonding power is in better shape and we have less reliance on premium bonds (a more expensive form of financing). Heavily mortgaging our future is a BAD idea.
Wait a year or two to see if the new impact fees and transition fees survive legal challenges. If the new village ordinances on impact fees and transition fees fall to a legal challenge, the taxpayers will be left holding the bag. There is still a legal challenge outstanding from Berian Builders over the existing impact fees so it is very possible there may be challenges to these new fees (and these fees are the key to the District’s financing). If we take on the debt and don’t have these levels of fees, the money to pay the debt comes from the taxpayers.
Wait a year or two to explore consolidation with Crystal Lake. Consolidation could help spread costs across residential, commercial, and industrial tax bases and it has worked well with the area high schools. As developers move in along Route 31, there will be an increase in children for both Crystal Lake and Prairie Grove schools. Merging with Crystal Lake makes sense for both districts. The State of Illinois has legislation that provides grants to facilitate school district mergers as they have recognized the heavy tax burden small school districts place on a community. But taking on a lot of debt now will make merging with our school less attractive to another district.
District 46 wants you to believe this referendum will cost you nothing because it is tax rate neutral. Tax Rate neutral is not tax neutral. Something for nothing? Think again!

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Salaries as listed on The Champion http://www.thechampion.org/
Prairie Grove School District 46 SALARY INCREASES
2005 2001 4 yr. % Inc.
Junior High Teacher 55,416 35,804 54.78%
Elementary Teacher 54,091 40,892 32.28%
Junior High Teacher 73,155 51,534 41.95%
Elementary Teacher 71,988 51,534 39.69%
Elementary Teacher 47,705 20,574 131.87%
Junior High Teacher 46,304 30,606 51.29%
Elementary Teacher 49,722 36,613 35.80%
Elementary Teacher 67,409 49,442 36.34%
Elem. & Junior High 74,148 55,721 33.07%
Elementary Teacher 65,747 46,303 41.99%
Elementary Teacher 68,666 53,627 28.04%
Junior High Teacher 77,428 53,627 44.38%
Elem. & Junior High 75,057 52,011 44.31%
Elementary Teacher 73,421 54,674 34.29%
Elementary Teacher 71,547 55,221 29.56%
Junior High Teacher 67,795 47,900 41.53%
Elementary Teacher 87,574 56,315 55.51%
Elementary Teacher 82,827 52,581 57.52%
Junior High Teacher 59,180 43,163 37.11%
Elementary Teacher 71,952 52,581 36.84%
Elem. & Junior High 59,456 45,586 30.43%
Elem. & Junior High 69,150 52,581 31.51%
Junior High Teacher 43,010 28,335 51.79%
Elementary Teacher 38,947 27,467 41.80%
Junior High Teacher 45,365 27,467 65.16%
Elementary Teacher 69,844 52,581 32.83%
Elementary Teacher 55,009 35,838 53.49%
Elementary Teacher 51,698 35,659 44.98%
Junior High Teacher 77,529 55,768 39.02%
Junior High Teacher 57,903 41,938 38.07%
Elementary Teacher 58,925 43,163 36.52%
Elementary Teacher 76,700 52,581 45.87%
Elementary Teacher 59,344 37,752 57.19%
Elementary Teacher 55,003 38,978 41.11%
Elementary Teacher 49,035 35,838 36.82%
Totals 2,208,050 1,552,255 42.25% Average Increase of Teachers
Employed from 2001 - 2005
Teacher names are purposely not listed.
The question is not whether an individual deserves such increases.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER DISTRICT 46 (WHOSE PRIMARY SOURCE OF REVENUE IS FROM
RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE TAXES) CAN AFFORD TO BUILD A NEW SCHOOL WITHOUT AN
ACCOMPANYING REFERENDUM TO INCREASE THE EDUCATION FUND.
Administrative Staffing--
In recent years Prairie Grove District 46 has grown from
one superintendent and one principal for both
elementary and junior high buildings to a staff of:
Superintendent
Assistant Superintendent
Junior High Principal
Elementary Principal
Assistant Elementary Principal
Special Education Director
How many administrators and office personnel will be added to operate a third building?
And yes, administrative salaries show increases similar to teacher's increases.
By
Anonymous, at 10:19 PM
The following charts show an increase in revenue, an increase in expenditure, and zero growth in student enrollment. Can this district operate a new school building without passing another referendum to increase the education fund?
Prairie Grove School District 46 TAX LEVY
Tax Year Prairie Grove Dist. 46 Total Levy % Increase
2000 $4,982,298
2001 $6,379,248 28.04%
2002 $7,025,598 10.13%
2003 $7,895,108 12.38%
2004 $9,099,896 15.26%
2005 ??? ??? (Waiting for posting on county clerk's web site)
82.64% Increase in Levy Amount Since the
2002 Education Fund Referendum
Levy Amounts from the McHenry County Clerk's Web Site
http://taxweb2k.co.mchenry.il.us/cidnet/clkisystem.htm
Prairie Grove School District 46 COST PER STUDENT
Year EAV per Student % Increase Instructional Expenditure per Student % Increase Operational Expenditure per Student % Increase
1999-2000 $155,444 $3,405 $5,869
2000-2001 $152,850 -1.7% $3,606 5.9% $6,066 3.4%
2001-2002 $157,846 3.3% $3,785 5.0% $6,344 4.6%
2002-2003 $169,689 7.5% $4,086 8.0% $6,970 9.9%
2003-2004 $196,284 15.7% $4,669 14.3% $7,872 12.9%
Four Year Increase 26.3% 37.1% 34.1%
Information from the Interactive Illinois Report Card Web Site
http://iirc.niu.edu/scripts/mytables.asp?districtID=440630460&categoryID=cat4&subCatID=subCat1&level=D
Prairie Grove School District 46 STUDENT ENROLLMENT
Year Students
2002 1,049
2003 1,018
2004 1,009
2005 1,048 Zero % Increase
2002 & 2003 enrollment taken from the District 46's Prairie Grove Press
http://www.pg46.org/www/pg46/site/hosting/PGPress/PGPFall03.pdf
2004 & 2005 enrollment taken from class lists published in fall of each year.
By
Anonymous, at 10:23 PM
It is amazing how they can say tax nuetral with a straight face!
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Anonymous, at 6:17 AM
Let's clean up the COST PER STUDENT so it's really clear
EAV per Student
---Year-- $Amount %Inc.
1999-2000 $155,444
2000-2001 $152,850 -1.7%
2001-2002 $157,846 3.3%
2002-2003 $169,689 7.5%
2003-2004 $196,284 15.7%
Four Year Increase 26.3%
Instructional Expenditure per Student
---Year-- $Amount %Inc.
1999-2000 $3,405
2000-2001 $3,606 5.9%
2001-2002 $3,785 5.0%
2002-2003 $4,086 8.0%
2003-2004 $4,669 14.3%
Four Year Increase 37.1%
Operational Expenditure per Student
---Year-- $Amount %Inc.
1999-2000 $5,869
2000-2001 $6,066 3.4%
2001-2002 $6,344 4.6%
2002-2003 $6,970 9.9%
2003-2004 $7,872 12.9%
Four Year Increase 34.1.%
Many thanks for the first posting of this information. I can't believe there's an increase of $583 per student in the Instructional Exp. and a total increase of $902 in the Operational Exp. per student in just the one year of 2003-2004.
If the enrollment information shows zero growth in student population from 2002 to 2005, where's the money going? Why has the school been asking the PTO for money to purchase books for a new "guided reading program" the cost of which I understand is $15,000 to $45,000.
By
Anonymous, at 8:47 AM
Bla, bla, bla, another anti-tax, anti-public school ramblings from someone who has no clue about what happens in a public school setting. While the previous tax issue is sad. It was casued by the county, not the kids or the schools. Why punish them?
My guess is the writer has not stepped one foot in the schools he is bashing. They need the space and those EAV numbers should be higher if you want great performance with one-on-one teaching. Have you seen what the requirements are for meeting federal and state mandates today. I won't gamble with my kids future. Thye need more space. Voting yes.
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Anonymous, at 6:22 AM
Another example in how the district "plays" with our money was shown in their handling of the ROW issue with the Village of Prairie Grove.
They spent $35,000 on consultants to study the impact of the road expansion on the school.
They turned down a deal that would have assured the district of receiving $300,000- $400,000 improvements for safety, noise, drainage et in return for 20 feet of ROW.
In the end, the school will still get the impact of the road while the taxpayer of the district is stuck with a $35,000 bill and the loss of $300,000-$400,000 of improvements.
Those improvements will now be paid by us.
Wrong leadership + wrong decisions = $435,000 cost to us.
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Anonymous, at 7:03 AM
I guess it does not bother Bla, Bla, Bla that:
Teacher's salaries have gone up 42% in four years for not one additional kid. (I wish my income went up that much.)
The rush to build a school will require the use of premium bonds which will more than double the total cost to the taxpayer. (Can you say mortgaging my grandchildren's future.)
The school will be up in running by Fall of 2007 when Tall Grass and Terra Cotta developments will not have finished the infrastructure(roads,water,and sewer) until the spring of 2008.
In fact, the schools do not want you know they will be spending $200,000 -$300,000 for a TEMPORARY septic field because the water and sewer hook-ups will not be operational for the premature school. (Can you literally say "pissing" our money away- wait a year and you will have saved that money.)
There is PLAN B that will address the needs of OUR KIDS and can be financially prudent to the taxpayer- you just won't get it from our district or Bla, Bla, Bla.
Oh by the way, my kids go to the school. I do care greatly about what happens and I will be voting NO.
Plan B to follow......
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Anonymous, at 7:42 AM
Dear Bla, bla, bla,
My guess is the writer has stepped into schools quite often. The numbers speak for themselves and numbers is what the school avoids. The pro-referendum information I received from Prairie Grove School District 46 contains teeny tiny bar graphs showing what will happen without a new school. Is this a teeny tiny threat?
I’d rather see the numbers showing
When will new teachers be hired?
How many new teachers will be hired during each year of new development?
What grade level will the new teachers be teaching?
How long can the district absorb the cost of hiring new teachers before we’re asked to vote on another referendum for the education fund?
The school’s own pro-referendum material shows 2008-2009 enrollment numbers of 29-3l in elementary and 32-36 in junior high. Why panic and rush to build a new two-story building with thirty classrooms by 2007? The existing junior high structure was designed to easily accommodate building new classrooms for each grade level. Where are the numbers for that scenario?
Would it not cost the community less in dollars to expand the existing junior high, and wait to take advantage of the additional taxes that will come with new homes, and then take advantage of the increase in EAV from these new homes which would give us more bonding power? If we can possibly repay $18 million dollars with $27 million dollars (or less?) why rush to repay $18 million dollars with real estate tax dollars of $50 million (or more)? When bonding is discussed in “Dollars” it no long appears very “revenue neutral”. Hmm… is this why Prairie Grove District 46 speaks only in tax rates?
I agree with you, Mr./Ms Bla, bla, bla, don’t punish the kids! Let’s stop the panic. I’m all in favor of good schools and a good education for our children. But, $50 million minus $27million equals $23 millions dollars. This $23 million dollars is a lot to think and talk about. Maybe $23 millions dollars can be used a bit more wisely for our school and for our community. Of course there still is the question of credibility. Seems to me the voice of the people was conveniently ignored after the last referendum. Let’s keep talking.
Frustrated Parent Seeking Answers
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Anonymous, at 9:24 AM
While being conservative is always good, there is no need to question the legality of the Village fees. The developer has signed an agreement to pay those fees so he will not be challenging them.
In addition the Village of Prairie Grove is home rule, so the ability to set fees is far broader than non-home rule communities. Berien Estates was developed in the County which cannot be home rule. County fees must abide by the limitations set by the state. The legal challenge to those fees is that they didn't conform to state regulations. Prairie Grove does not have to live into the state limitations.
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Anonymous, at 1:24 PM
The school is protected regarding the impact fees by the agreement with the developer.
.In addition the agreement passes on to any future purchasers
of the land.
The fees are protected !
Thanks school district for tne benefit to us the current taxpayers
By
Anonymous, at 6:50 PM
As a Crystal Lake resident,the road
issue with the school was unjustified.Under Illinois municipal law a municipality can't
withhold impact fees or land from
a school.The municipality can only
collect.Once in hand they have to distribute.To put the school in a
position where they had to spend
the 35000 you mention was at best
questionable.
By
Anonymous, at 9:22 PM
response to 11:22 pm posting
"to put the school in a position where they had to spend 35,000"
The question is "Why did school officials spend $35,000 to proof their position?"
From your posting it sounds that withholding impact fees or land was never a legal option. These postings cost $0.00
Seems some level-headed discussions could have come to the same conclusion.
What's really going on?
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Anonymous, at 7:51 AM
The school is quite close to maximum capacity.......let's build a new junior high, do some great improvements to the current schools.......and keep calling our district "one of the finest in Mchenry County". Yes.....our taxes will probably go up.....but they are going up everywhere.....so why not reap the benefits, including increased property values. I am voting yes!
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Anonymous, at 10:12 AM
Response to 9:42 a.m. posting:
You must be kidding, a TEMPORARY septic field? $200,000 to $300,000 down the drain? Can't we wait until the infrastructure is in place? After all there won't be any occupied houses (and 0 students from them) until the water/sewer is hooked up.
Looking forward to learn of Plan B!
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Anonymous, at 5:09 PM
Who wants us to spend 18 Million $$$ right now and ASAP? Can we see a Fee Disclosure Statement for the bond issuance? I hear it's commonly being done for large transactions.
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Anonymous, at 2:19 PM
To Blah-Blah-Blah and anonymous who said "our taxes will probably go up but they are going up everywhere"
I hope you have the same feelings when you are older and living on a fixed income.You people in the school have no feelings toward others with no kids. You just want our money. And stop telling me about increased property values. Unless I sell my house, I still have to come up with the cash.
I am in favor of good schools but property taxes have gone up too much in the past few years. Especially if there are not more kids right now. Voting No.
By
Anonymous, at 3:02 PM
Wayne,
What a bunch of nothing you just stated. Name one item on this web site that is a lie and back it with facts.
.
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Anonymous, at 7:39 AM
The issues within this blog are not about the school ROW but rather the information or lack thereof from the schools with regards to the true impact to the tax payers of District 46 for the upcoming referendum. I personally favor any site or forum which provides an opportunity to openly share information, thoughts and opinions of all our tax payers. We need to fully vet the issues and address all concerns. At the end of the day if we have full disclosure of the information and the tax payers decide this is a favorable direction, we're better for it. If we decide against it, it is the will of the people. We need for the community to be involved and feel good about the decisions regardless of which route this ultimately traverses. But we need the facts to be laid out openly and honestly to all parties and stop withholding information.
I plan to attend the schools informational session coming up here and hope the schools will be genuine in their interest to fully disclose the information.
The impact fees being collected as a result of the developments are not "entitlements" to the school rather they are tax payer dollars and those funds are not to be assumed to simply be used how ever they wish. These funds can assist us in rolling out better education and facilities than we have today and hopefully build upon the success we have had thus far. We have a good school district today and we need to plan to have a great school district as we move into the future.
So for those who have indicated that this is about the ROW and the Village, please, let it go and move beyond that so we may all focus on the greater good of all the communities that are paying taxes to educate our children. We could spend countless hours of debate and actually have about this topic. If ANY resident would like to discuss this ROW issue with me personally, please, do not EVER hesitate to contact me and I will make time. My obligation is to all residents of our village first and foremost but also to the greater community and those around us.
Sincerely,
Stan Duda
Resident and Trustee VPG
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Anonymous, at 8:03 AM
I'm sure the school would be very happy NOT to request a referendum, but they are merely putting a plan into place to ACCOMODATE GROWTH IN PRAIRIE GROVE THE VILLAGE IS ALLOWING.
So what do you propose then? Cramming more students into the existing classrooms until we have a school that looks like a mobile trailer park??
While I'm interested in seeing factual material presented, I do feel like we elected Mike Breseman to the Village because of his pro-school and controlled-development platform, then he turned on the community.
What a turncoat.
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Anonymous, at 10:31 AM
About those impact fees. We the tax payers were told the land from Tall Grass was being "donated" to the school to build on. Now we find out those impact fees are PAYING for the land under power lines at full price??? What a deal the school board struck? Not too mention it was the school boards wish for the large development to get the impact fees and the "free" land.
Could the school board just open it's books as to allow the tax payers a look at where all the money has been going? Shouldn't it be an open book? Why all the cover ups?
Do we really want this board to blow more of our hard earned money?
I'm all for good schools, but can't we wait until the next ballot in November?
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Anonymous, at 10:41 AM
The schools are one very important aspect of this community by all means but they are not the only focus of the community. Taking potshots at any individual does not help to reveal facts allowing citizens to make an informed choice. I have chosen to run with Michael Breseman because he stands for all aspects of this community, not any one interest group. We cannot make sound decisions and judgments' without having a clear and concise picture of what the facts truly are. Running at 180 mph to simply build does not solve the issues. The public forums are a good start for the schools to disseminate information to the community but unless all information is fully disclosed, it is meaningless.
Some of the information that we have been provided by the developer of both Terra Cotta and Tall Grass would suggest a development is coming but not at the velocity in which the schools would have us believe. If you want open and honest communications, stop shooting at each other and let's get the community, the developer and school board together to field questions from all interested parties with facts available from everyone so we can logically debate these points.
I have children in this school. I know that we will need to address the expansion in some fashion sooner rather than later. Let's understand the facts and plan based upon this so we are not spending our hard earned tax payers dollars frivolously.
Sincerely,
Stan Duda
Resident and Trustee VPG
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Anonymous, at 10:59 AM
It should be common knowledge to anyone who attended public hearings on the Tall Grass development that the Village of Prairie Grove Board was hoping for LOWER densities but because they felt the need to HELP the schools out they passed it.
It is the school board who have wished this large development on our village with sweet stories of a great "deal" for a new building and "free" land but NOW they want more tax payer money because the land isn't free.
Let's get all the information out on the table and see who is really for the Village of Pairie Grove instead of bad mouthing our neighbors.
Let's open those school board accounting books and put our money into the right direction.
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Anonymous, at 11:17 AM
It disgusts me to see some of you anonymous people posting taking your cheap shots at the village of pg and leaders. Just like the village president the school heavily endorsed Terra Cotta and Tall grass from all I read in the paper. Get your fact straight... your blind by bogus facts from the schools. I have set my foot in the door of the school so no need to cut my finger off for that.
Maybe it would be good to have a good extensive audit done on District 46. Seems to me everything I am reading here stinks from spending cover-ups at the this school.
This sounds like when I lived in Lake in the Hills. We built the school and the day it opened a referendum was put out to pay for the teachers to fill the classrooms since they did not have enought money for salaries and other expenses.
I am new to this blogging thing.... but it seem to be informative... thank to who ever started this and to who ever put the sign up on the side of the road.
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Anonymous, at 3:51 PM
I appreciate Wayne's comments to get the facts straight. Nothing positive comes from wrong information.
However, Wayne, what about the misleading info from the school district? The public statements that the land is "donated" and "given" to the school that appeared in their July 2005 shareholders report? The public testimony of the superintendent when she stated the land was donated? Then then the ballot question is written, they tell us they have to buy the land.
And what about the hundreds of thousands of dollars each year in additional taxes above the voters' approval of a $0.50 increase? They advertised one rate and collected another. They don't have to do that. Other districts don't do that.
Chris, keep this board going. People need to know what is really going on. We have been told things over and over that turn out not to be true. Makes me wonder about what we don't know about this deal.
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Anonymous, at 5:48 PM
Dear Wayne,
Welcome to the United States of America. The freedom to speak is a constitutional right that no individual should be without. The very fact that we are having this dialog is because of this right and I’m not about to stop exercising my right to speak out against what I feel is wrong.
I have set up this website so that people can share their comments and ideas freely about a matter that is near and dear to their hearts, the education of their children. Everyone posting on this site should have the same agenda, provide strong education for our children and do so at the lowest possible burden to the community (i.e. SAVE District 46).
There is a huge issue at hand with this referendum and the way in which it has been positioned to the community. The district has a track record of not living up to its commitments and we need to ensure that it doesn’t happen again. The articles that are posted on this site are from reputable sources, Northwest Herald and Daily Herald as well as the State of Illinois own website on education. If you have reason to believe that information provided is untrue, please post a response with your facts for all of us to see.
While most have chosen to post anonymously to avoid altercations with fellow neighbors, I have chosen to use my name proudly when posting. If you have issue with specific content that you’ve read on the site, I again encourage you to post what you feel is more accurate rather than suggest that we should shut down the site.
This is a healthy debate regarding the referendum and it behooves us to make it as public as we can to ensure that all sides have a voice. If you think that the good of the community will be served if we avoid public debate and try to conduct these discussions in person, I strongly disagree. The school district and its leaders are not interested in open debate and have limited even their own board members to the real facts in this matter. This needs to stop and the community needs to be warned about the flaws in the leadership as well as the referendum.
I encourage you to continue to contribute to the site and ask that you tell others about the debate. We think it’s great that we can finally start talking about the facts.
Regards,
Chris Dalton
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Candidate, at 6:26 PM
Bravo Todd Greenwald and Chris Dalton!
Another interesting fact that the schools have swept under the rug concerns the money from the 2002 referendum. The money was to be used to accommodate the 50 new students we were to receive since 2002 (since 2002 there has been 0% growth). It is clear the money was not used to expand the building. So, why do they take the money raised from the 2202 referendum and use it to add on the existing school now? Why? Because they blew the money.
How can we trust them with $18 million? How can we trust them that the school won’t cost more? Also, the school is projected to cost $18 million, where are they getting the $2 million for the addition to the school and the $2.5 million to purchase the land? Will they need an additional referendum?
So may questions, so few answers. Let’s not rush to pass the referendum. Let’s hope this referendum fails and by November when the vote will be up again for a referendum, we have all the answers.
Thank you for this website.
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Anonymous, at 8:25 AM
My children go to school in District 46. They have had wonderful teachers such as Charlene Cahill, Beth Klinsky, Kristy Caeser, Ann Yorke, Regan Spizzirri, and Amy Burnidge. I also have had dealings with John Gibbas, the grammer school Principal. He was professional even thought the village and the school district were at odds over the ROW.
Over the last few months, I have tried to educated myself on things such as tax rates, tax caps, premium bonds, school construction cost per square foot, and the like. I have talked to people who have been directly involved with the schools for years, who care deeply about its future. Because of this information I have learned, and frankly, the lack of information the school is sharing, I am voting “No” to the March 21, referendum.
There will be those who say that I am a “turncoat” or some who will say that those of us who choose not to support the referendum care less about our children’s education, do not value the efforts by our teachers, and are against the schools. I believe the exact opposite is the truth. I care about the longevity of the school (keeping it open and viable over the long-term), and all the taxpayers in the community.
It is well known, our family has spent the last three years in support of the schools and the community with respect to the developments. In addition, my wife donates her time as a homeroom mom, artist of the month, and other school projects. Our family has donated money to purchase a heart defibrillator. We helped to renovate and paid for the baseball infield field re-graded. We care!
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2002 Referendum (Past behavior is the best indication of future performance)
The justifications for the referendum in 2002 were that the .50 increase was needed to maintain music, art, science, and AEP, and the tax increase would help the district manage the expected growth of 50 additional kids in the near future.
I have now come to learn from the www.district46.org web site and others with direct knowledge, the school district took in more money than what was advertised at the last referendum. On two occasions, the school board and the Superintendent were asked to give the money back, and they chose not to and continue to not refunding our money today. In addition, they never made any improvements to the school to accommodate the additional 50 students.
While the schools budget has gone up 82% in the preceding 4 years the 50 additional kids never materialized. Why do we need to build a new $18 million dollar school today for 50 additional kids in fall of 2007 that were never absorbed since 2002 referendum? Would we be using premium bonds or other higher interest bonds if we had a different plan to handle the growth?
Why A New School?
The district is saying we need the new building now because of the expected growth of the new developments. The schools in their haste to build will have you believe all 700 kids will show up in the next few years. The kids will come for sure - but over time. Buzz words such as split shifts and mobile classrooms will be used, as in other referendums, by some to convince us to believe in the “new school or bust” campaign. I believe there might be a better way for the district to handle the growth that will be coming over the next ten plus years and that is the main reason I am voting no.
What Is The Better Way?
Add an addition to the existing school first before building the new school. I can not take credit for the idea, but it made sense to me when I heard it from a school board member who was looking for a different way to handle the growth. It is a plan that just might allow us to fund a new school in the near future without the use of premium or higher interest bonds.
An addition makes sense for the following reasons:
1. There will be a cost savings by coupling an addition with the needed renovations to the existing building. Mechanical, plumbing and other life safety issues mandated by the state can be performed all at once with the construction of the new addition, saving money to the district in the long run. The total cost for this work will be much less than for a new school.
The cost for the capacity that is need in the next 3 years will be much less for an addition than for a new building that will be under utilized for a long time. The school district is planning to add on and renovate the existing school anyway.
2. The new addition will allow the beginnings of the new development to come on line, building up the district’s EAV, and allowing a higher bonding capacity which would allow funding the new school with lower interest bonds and lower total cost to the taxpayers in the future.
3. It will allow the district to finally get costs under control before there is no turning back from the huge burden of the new bonds. Build the addition now, build the new school later.
Possible November 2006 Referendum
How about a possible referendum in November for much less money to add on to the existing building, and then to take stock of where we are headed? We do not know if this is the right solution because there has been no meaningful discussions within the school board or for that matter, in the community as a whole.
Let’s Take A Breath
I have learned a few things from my involvement with the fight against the original Terra Cotta plan. By getting the whole community involved in the process, by allowing all voices to be heard, by not rushing into any decision, and vetting all the issues; we as a community will be better for it. As with Terra Cotta, it was presented at the time that we had no options. It was not true then and it is not true now.
I am afraid the same rush to get something done 3 years ago with Terra Cotta is again happening, but only now it is with our school district.
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We, as a village, have been very busy with handling all the issues confronting Prairie Grove. As people see land surveyors and their trails of orange flags, it is a good time to communicate with our village and the greater community what we can expect in the coming months and years.
Please feel free to contact myself or any of the village trustees if you would like further information about the developments in Prairie Grove.
Sincerely
Michael Breseman
Concerned taxpayer of 46
Village President of Prairie Grove
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Anonymous, at 10:04 AM
So let me get this straight.The president of aVillage is controlling a sign, at Leach Enterprises,that bashes the school system that serves the community he supposedly runs?
Voting no for Breseman
Yes for the schools
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Anonymous, at 4:43 AM
You people are amazing. I don't have kids in the school but I am a tax payer and resident of Prairie Grove. I have been tracking this posting news site regularly as well as the various articles in the news paper. I actually voted for Mr. Breseman and am realizing that it is probably one of the best votes I have made in my life and I am nearly 60 years old! I appreciate that he isn't simply representing the schools which continue to eat away at my wife and my fixed income. Mr. Breseman, thank you for looking out for all of the tax payers and setting the facts straight. To Mr. Huerth, get your tail out from between your legs and get informed sir. You sound like a frightened child for goodness sake.
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Anonymous, at 5:27 AM
"a sign, at Leach Enterprises,that bashes the school system that serves the community he supposedly runs?"
What is amazing is how questioning the school means "bashing" the school. You had better get informed on this. We are surrounded by communities who have overextended (i.e Cary, Elgin, District 300, Huntley) and it is the kids who suffer because the bonds get paid no matter what (including taking the money from the education fund). To meet overextended obligations, schools then cut programs so the idea is not be get overextended in the first place.
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Anonymous, at 6:07 AM
To: Mary Fasbender...or is the name actually "Fastspender"...?
Ms. Fastspender, you have been spending the tax payers money faster than a Rap artist...and now you need $18M for the new D-46 Crib? As an involved observer, and a 5 digit property tax payer, it is very sad to see the school leadership fall into self serving motives that leave us holding the bill. Ms. Fastspender, I'm afraid this $18M deal is not going to help your resume as you would expect. Luckily, as long as this information is on Web, the world (and future employers) can read about your results (or lack of). Here is a business 101 lesson for you: Throwing more money at problems do not fix the problems. Unfortunately for the tax payers in Prairie Grove, you missed that day of class. Ms. Fastspender, a 42% increase in staff salaries over four years? No wonder you have the teacher's support...you simply bought them. Is this your style of leadership? For another $18M I'm sure they will wash your car and walk the dog for you as you make your Red Carpet entrance into school.
It might be time for this community to consider a petition and ballot for your replacement. The property taxes are already out of control. Ms. Fastspender it's time for you to go. The $18M is merely throwing gas on a fire.
Chris, thanks for this website and the efforts behind it. This information MUST be discussed openly. If $11k of my property taxes are going towards Fastspender's self-serving strategies...I want to hear about it ASAP.
My neighbors and I will be voting NO.
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Anonymous, at 9:20 AM
can anyone tell me how George Steffen went from making
$102,584 in 2000
$130,324 in 2001
Correct me if I am wrong but that is about a 22%. That seems like unsensible spending to me. Aside from this these teachers increase are disgusting. I just got my hands on a flyer coming around... Yes for "one" what ever that means. But it was interesting that I am seeing teahers names on here as Team Members. I have the highest respect for the teachers... do not get me wrong. I just am curoius if these teacher are signing up becasue they are Tax payers in this district or if they are in it to support there jobs.
I want to stress this comment is not against the teachers. I just would hope if these folks are in it that they are the ones that if this does end up costing tax payers they would take on some of the burden themselves.
Wyane- I think you need to take the blinders of and stop being in attack mode. I can not believe the things you are saying.
Just as an aside-- I hope everyone know the fact that Illinois is one of the most inefficient in the nation. This is an article from December I read on the Chicago Tribune. I remember this ever since I heard about 46 want to pass a FREE referendum. Schools does not equal free. Read this and tell me your not slightly nervous of spending poor habits folks.
State urges district mergers
Combining could free more money for schools, officials say
By Diane Rado, Chicago Tribune staff reporter. Tribune staff reporter Darnell Little contributed to this report
Published December 22, 2005
Illinois has one of the most fragmented, massive and inefficient education bureaucracies in the nation, and state officials--under pressure to put more money into schools but unwilling to raise taxes--are renewing efforts to merge school districts, the Tribune has learned.
Consolidations would not be forced. But significant changes in the law would make it easier for voters to approve mergers and allow districts to combine in ways prohibited in the past, according to a memo by state schools Supt. Randy Dunn that was obtained by the Tribune.
Lawmakers would have to approve the proposals, crafted by Gov. Rod Blagojevich's staff and state education officials.
The goal, officials say, is to free up scarce dollars for the classroom or reduce property-tax bills.
The precise savings are unknown because the amount would depend on which districts merged and other factors. But a Tribune analysis found that nearly 900 districts spent $643.3 million on schools boards and administrators in 2003-04. And the smallest districts spent three times more of their budgets on administrative costs than the largest districts.
Saving even half that $643.3 million could boost state aid by more than $200 per child, according to state estimates. That would be the second-largest increase in per-pupil aid in nearly a decade.
Blagojevich has been instrumental in increasing per-pupil aid during his administration, but he remains under pressure from schools and education advocacy groups to increase school funding even more.
Illinois has not made a serious attempt to merge districts since 1985, when consolidation legislation was approved but later gutted as districts fought to keep their students, buildings, jobs and tax bases.
Since then, the number of districts has declined from 1,006 in 1984-85 to 875 in the current school year.
But the remaining patchwork of districts is almost unparalleled elsewhere.
When Illinois is compared with other big population states, only New Jersey has a bigger education bureaucracy, national data show. And while the vast majority of school districts elsewhere are K-12 districts, Illinois maintains separate and more costly high school and elementary districts, in addition to K-12 "unit" districts.
Across Illinois, more than 200 districts have only one school, and several dozen towns have multiple districts.
In Will County's Lockport, for example, four elementary districts served 3,349 students last school year. Skokie in Cook County has five grade-school districts for about 5,300 children. Separate high school districts also are based in Skokie and Lockport.
State and local officials say district mergers have become more palatable, given that most school districts are in financial trouble and voters are rejecting local school tax increases.
Blagojevich has opposed raising state taxes for schools, and lawmakers would be unlikely to approve any increases with the 2006 elections approaching.
"Legislators of both parties and local school officials have told us that they think the time [for more mergers] may be now," said Elliot Regenstein, the governor's director of education reform.
Still, consolidations have always been controversial here and elsewhere, with educators, districts and parents clinging to small districts that often are the lifeblood of towns.
In Lockport, the one-school Taft District 90 has been struggling with deficits, and voters rejected a school tax increase last spring. But a merger with neighboring districts "is not on the table," said Supt. David Rogowski.
In Skokie, opinion is divided.
Parent Leticia Martin wonders why five separate elementary school districts, each with its own superintendent and board, are needed.
"It doesn't make sense to me," said Martin, whose children attend the smallest of Skokie's elementary districts. The one-school East Prairie School District 73 had 453 pupils in 2004-05.
As for the various superintendents, Martin asked, "What does this one [in East Prairie] do, what does the other do? And then down the street you have another one. Come on."
But Mary Anne Brown, PTA president at Skokie's Fairview South School, said parents have told her they wouldn't want to consolidate with neighboring districts.
"Everybody was of the mind that it's just fine, thank you. We're very proud of our district," Brown said. Among the benefits: Easy access to the district superintendent and school staff, which parents consider important.
The school had 617 students in 2004-05 and is the only school in Fairview District 72, the wealthiest of Skokie's districts. Last spring, 86 percent of its students passed state tests, far outpacing state averages.
Not all small districts perform as well. Student backgrounds as well as the type of district come into play. A Tribune analysis of 2005 state test results shows that children in high-poverty districts scored higher on average when enrolled in small elementary and unit districts. But students in more affluent districts scored higher on average when enrolled in large unit districts.
Dunn, the state superintendent, is most concerned about tiny high schools facing pressure to add classes because of new state graduation requirements. A dozen high school districts have fewer than 250 students, most with just one school.
"If we have a high school with less than 200 or 250 students, I'm concerned they can't offer what I'd call a comprehensive program," Dunn said, because it's difficult to attract teachers and add courses if too few students are enrolled to create a class.
Proponents and critics agree that mergers would create more financial equity--districts like Skokie's Fairview would share property wealth with their neighbors--and in some areas, more racial diversity.
The Tribune found that small districts are far more costly to manage than large ones.
The 100 tiniest districts, with fewer than 250 students and often just one school, spent 8.3 percent of their budgets on average on administrative costs in 2003-04, compared with 2.4 percent spent by the 100 largest districts.
Chicago, with more than 420,000 students, spent 1.7 percent of its budget on administrative costs. In contrast, 143 Cook suburban districts together spent 3.9 percent of their budgets on administration, though they have about 40,000 fewer students than Chicago.
Michael Johnson, executive director of the Illinois Association of School Boards, cautioned against comparing district administrative expenses, because he said districts categorize those costs differently.
The Tribune used information from audited district financial statements, as well as legal definitions for administrative costs that are used to determine whether districts exceed state caps on administrative expenses.
The Tribune also included school board expenses, because while board members serve without pay, they have budgets for travel, legal fees, elections and other costs. In 2003-04, boards statewide spent $230.1 million--a conservative figure because the Tribune excluded employee benefits that some districts may have incorrectly included in school board budgets.
Johnson said he believes those board costs would not drop substantially even if more districts merged. Most savings from consolidations result from school closings, he said, not from cutting school boards and administrators. In fact, some merged districts end up adding administrators, Johnson said.
At the same time, he said his organization does not oppose some proposals that would help districts merge. "I think that if people want to make changes, we need to make it easier for them," Johnson said.
Other states have managed to reduce the school bureaucracy.
Florida has one district per county, with one school district on average for every 37,909 students. North Carolina has a district for every 11,418 students, according to the most recent data for the 2002-03 school year.
In contrast, Illinois has a district for every 2,334 students, the lowest of the 14 states with school populations of more than 1 million except New Jersey, with 2,287 students per district.
"That's really in my opinion a tremendous waste of money," said Ben Matthews, director of school support for the North Carolina state education agency. Larger districts are more economical, he said, allowing savings in administrative salaries and other expenses.
Illinois law allows district mergers now, usually involving citizens gathering signatures or school boards putting a consolidation measure on the ballot. But the rules and variations of mergers are complex, and the new consolidation proposals attempt to simplify them and encourage new kinds of mergers.
For example, elementary districts whose borders don't touch could merge, a departure from current law, as long as they are in the same high school district.
And certain mergers could occur even if not all districts agree. Now, voters in each district affected by certain mergers have to approve. If one district votes no, the deal for all districts is off. Proposed changes would allow districts voting yes to consolidate. Those voting no wouldn't have to, but they also couldn't block the merger.
The governor's staff and state education officials hope to get the proposals approved in the spring legislative session, said Regenstein, the governor's director of education reform.
"We believe that this is what is best for the system," he said.
The proposals would not affect Chicago Public Schools, already the state's largest district.
In DuPage County, Terri Brzezinski welcomes any changes to ease the merger process.
For years, she and other citizens fought to dissolve the smallest district in DuPage, called Puffer-Hefty. The nine-year battle went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court before the tiny district was annexed into Downers Grove Grade School District 58 in 2004-05.
While some citizens didn't want the dissolution, Brzezinski blames Puffer-Hefty school administrators and the school board for not letting go.
"It was a power issue, I think, more than anything else," she said.
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Skokie vs. Evanston: A case study
In an effort to curb administrative costs, state officials are pushing to merge small districts, which usually cost more to manage than larger ones. In Skokie, multiple elementary districts together spend almost double what nearby Evanston spends for just one elementary district.
Skokie
5,331 pupils
12 schools
Evanston
6,386 pupils
15 schools
District Admin. costs Percent of district expenses 68 $1.15 million 5.2% 69 $1.22 million 5.2% 73 1/2 $715,406 6.1% 73 $449,505 7.7% 72 $458,440 2.8% Total $4 million 5% 65 $2.29 million 2.6%
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Anonymous, at 9:53 AM
Superintend Fasbender needs to resign!
Daily Herald:
Instead of the $11,385 the owner of a $300,000 house would have paid under the simple formula, the homeowner wound up paying $12,333 - an additional $948 - over four years. Fasbender said officials did discuss the possibility of not taking all the money they were entitled to under the law, but decided not go that route after speaking with their consultants.
“It was the advice of our bond counsel not to do that,” she said. “We were not in financial black mode, if you will. We were still in the red.”
April of 2005
1. Real leaders do not blame their consultants. Has she heard the famous saying "the buck stops here." Where is the accountability with our district?
2. Why were they in the red? Bad spending habits? Was it not the purpose of the 2002 referendum to balance the books and to prepare for the 50 kids that never came? Where did all the extra money go? Some one needs to figure how much extra they have collected over the last 4 years. Would the "extra" money have paid for an addition to the school?
3. Since her "shareholders" were not given back the money- where is the addition?
4. Ms Fasbender felt the district was ENTITLED to the money. It is our money not hers!
Somebody needs to remind Ms. Fasbender who signs the checks.
As "the Donald" says "Your fired"
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Anonymous, at 11:27 AM
Thank you Wayne for your educated comments regarding the school issue and the leadership of our fine village. We all had hopes of this area one day standing out as a model community, however with our current leader, I do not see how that will be possible. Anyone or any group who disagrees with Mr. Breseman is attacked, as one trip to a typical profanity laced village board meeting will tell you. I am sad for our community - we as a village have a significant problem. I cannot imagine a village president handling himself in the fashion we have seen. Although we should not be surprised, as this is the same individual who attacked the former village leaders during the Terra Cotta land negotiations. Do you see a pattern here? Attack former leaders, attack fellow current trustees, attack the school system!
Back to the real issue . .
Voting yes for the ONE positive aspect of this community - OUR SCHOOL!
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Anonymous, at 8:13 PM
This is a great way to get information out to the community. Mary Fasbender believes it is "OK" not inform the community that the actual revenues from last referendum exceeded what the taxpayers approved; while, deciding to increase salaries for administrators and teachers at a pace that greatly exceeds inflation. WOW! And these raises were awarded when the district was in the red (according to her). WOW! I do not think that this was simply poor judgement on Mary's part...clearly she is demonstrating a lack of accountability to the tax paying public. Steve Todd (curiously in the background pulling the strings after this blog started) and the school board seem to be unconcerned with the truth. I wonder what the school board is meeting on behind closed doors? WOW! Nothing is more important than the truth; and, school leadership is not taking the truth seriously! As Albert Einstein said “Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either.”
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Anonymous, at 9:06 PM
I would like to ask each "yes" voter if they would hand their personal finances to a person who would over extend their moneis and then not have any idea where it went?
That is what our current school board has done.
Yes we will need a new school, but are you willing to throw more money away? Where did all the extra in taxes go over the last 4 years?
Would any large corporation blindly throw money out the window? No they would budget, down size if needed and come back on top. United Airlines has shown how it's done. No, not everyone was happy but they have made a comeback and are still a top airline.
That is what district 46 needs to do! We need leadership that will take us into the next arena. And giving 18 million to a board who can't account for the last millions is poor financal advise. Anyone willing to hand off thousands of their hard earned dollars to just anyone and let them do what they will can do it with their own money but not all of the tax payers money!
Let's read also about all the lies the current board has told about "free" land. And the fact THE SCHOOL BOARD wanted the LARGER developement NOT the Village Board so lets stop blaming the village. Everyone is in this together. We just need someone who can budget and FOLLOW though, even in the hard times.
Because if anyone wants to throw their money out the window and let it fly, I can only wish I didn't care enough like they do!
I care about our community AND our schools so I'm voting No until I can see where all the past money has gone with plan for where the new money will go.
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Anonymous, at 5:09 AM
I have followed this blog with great interest and I hope people will stick to the facts. I don't agree with Mary Fasbender's misleading statements but I object more to someone mocking her or her name. I also object to the personal attacks on Mike Bresman.
What is at stake here is the financial viability of our school district. Personal attacks are an unwarranted distraction to a more important issue.
We are surrounded by communities that have made poor financial decisions in the past and are now faced with horrible options and it is the kids who end up losing.
It is obvious that we will need a new school at some point. The question is how we get there. The district wants to panic the residents to believe it is now or never. Unfortunately, their financing plan buries the district with terrible, costly long-term debt.
Sure there is no tax rate increase but homeowners will pay more as their homes appreciate. It is disingenuous for the VOTE YES group to lead the voters to believe otherwise. The real hidden expense is in the projected operating costs. The district will not publish numbers on that and only "predict" there will be no need for another educational referendum in the next five years. And this prediction is from the same person who said "the land is donated by the builder to the school."
If they can tell us how many kids are coming, why can they tell us exactly how we are going to pay for educating those kids?
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Anonymous, at 5:46 AM
In response to Tom Legare,
Yes, the fact that the school is already at capacity has been addressed. (See Breseman's suggestion to add on to existing school).
Has anyone addressed where the monies from the 2002 referendum went? NO ---
By the way, I am voting NO!
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Anonymous, at 8:09 AM
This entire site appears to be a witch-hunt of skewed theory and personal issues lacking any sort of tangible facts.
I don’t understand the breakdown in communication between our schools and village boards. Can someone please explain this to me? One would think there could be some sort of positive, professional discussion or dialog here. Does anyone from either board speak to anyone? What is going on? Just 2 years ago there was excellent collaboration between the schools and the village while the new impact fee ordinances were written.
What has happened? A change in our village leadership has resulted in this hostility toward our schools? Is this what I am reading?
If I were the superintendent or on the school board, I would not even consider jumping into this hornet’s nest of anonymous blogging. I would behave just as they are providing professional open public information sessions for residents to gain knowledge on the future of our schools.
Readers of this blog…….beware where you get your information.
Voting “Yes” for the schools
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Anonymous, at 10:48 AM
Witch hunt?
The Voting Yes people ignore a lot of questions and blindly follow the school board, thinking that everything the school board is automatically the best for the kids. LOOK CLOSELY AT NEIGHBORING SCHOOL DISTRICTS! When a school overextends, it is the worst for the kids.
Quit dismissing the misleading and inaccurate statements from the district. Explain why land that was to be given to the district is now going to cost $2.5MM in impact fee offsets. Imagine what those fees could do for our debt. More importantly, why were we told the land was "donated" when it never really was. Explain why the square footage of the proposed building keeps shrinking. Have they thought this through? Explain why high reliance on premium bonds will be OK for us but they have driven other districts into debt.
I think if you look at why other districts get into financial trouble you'd find it was the school board that led the way. I agree...let's get all the facts out and stop the personal attacks.
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Anonymous, at 3:39 PM
In response to Tom Legare's response to my response...
It is currently in the school's plan to add 8 classrooms on to the school for a cost of $2MM. This is to coincide with the building of the new school.
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Anonymous, at 4:29 PM
I want to thank everyone for the education on the referendum. I am coming to the discussion somewhat late, as I try very hard not to be involved with District 46.
I am sure that everyone has seen the news articles about the abusive behavior of the teacher in Aurora Colorado towards student Sean Allen. That is very close to what my children experienced in 2003 at that hands of abusive teachers in District 46 and the reason my wife and I now homeschool our children and well NEVER step foot inside a Prairie Grove school ever again.
David Etling
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Anonymous, at 5:10 AM
This issue is about our children first and foremost. It is also about rational and reasonable budgeting and having, or, not having blind faith in your schools leaders. This is a process that needs to be researched and discussed but, first and foremost, not rushed. Please explain to me how salary increases paid to teachers and administrative staff in the last 3 years, plus zero growth in students, equal lower test scores. Isn't there just of hint of mis-management present within this district ? This district is made up of primarily well to do residents who, on average, earn above average incomes and live in above average homes. Why then, if we all have the means, would we be against this referendum ? I'll tell you why. We want our money spent wisely and we have a right to question it when we feel it is not. We live in a diverse community that is make up of business professionals and entrepreneurs that work in the public and private sectors. It is our experiences in dealing with a multitude of different companies that gives us the motivation to want to dig deeper to make sure we are getting the greatest value for our dollar. That's how we got where we are, we ask questions and want to be informed. Simple as that. Despite their best efforts, the district cannot seem to manage their budget. We, as residents, already pay a hefty price in tax dollars to District 46. However, we also pay a never ending list of fees or "donations" for things like defibrillators, classroom amplification, and volunteering time and money to build an entire playground and ball field. Does this sound right to you ? I mean really, it's just common sense to question key issues and want to proceed in a cautious and responsible manner for the betterment of our childrens education.
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Anonymous, at 7:30 AM
When someone questions a school’s spending habits and in the same breath complains about high taxes and the school’s requests for donations, I have to question the source. What are you saying? You don’t want the schools to tax you OR seek donations? Until playgrounds and defibrillators fall out of the sky, I’m all for working with benevolent citizens before going back to the taxpayers for money. I mean really…it’s just common sense…isn’t it?
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Anonymous, at 4:19 PM
When someone questions...
I think what the person is saying is that the district has collected all this extra money from the taxpayers and the school still goes to the citizens to collect more for these causes. The question is what is happenning to the money that was gouged from the taxpayers since the last referendum. With all the extra money why can't the district just buy these things?
The answer is the district is spending the money on inflating salaries. Then citizens are approached constantly for "fund raisers". While I like to support the kids' special interests, sometimes I just want to say that the district already has a lot of my money so get it from there. After seeing the salary increases on this blog, I understand where the money is going.
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Anonymous, at 7:32 PM
Mr. Huerth:
I believe your information is misleading and dangerous to our community. I am pro-school, and potentially pro-referendum...being pro school means I value better student/teacher ratios, smaller classrooms and better/safer traffic flow! I believe that having a strong school system is not only beneficial for our children...it is great for our home appreciation. However, having a school that is bankrupt, or under severe financial duress, is no way to help a community to grow and prosper. We need to understand what the specifics of this referendum proposal, and what it really means to our community before we vote.
Please answer the following questions:
Why did Dr. Fasbender elect to not disclose to the community that the revenue collected from the last referendum exceeded what was approved by taxpayers? To say she followed the advice of her consultants points to lack of accountability? Mr. Huerth... please defend this action.
Why does the board continue to hide information about their EAV assumptions if the planning is so conservative. It should be easy to look at different scenarios regarding the buildout plans.I believe that the school board and Mary Fasbender should be open and clear about the their assumptions. However, up to now, even with numerous request from various citizens, the assumptions that drive their EAV assumptions have not been made public. Why not? The EAV assumptions can be reconciled with updates on build-out from the developers. Why the secrecy?
I distrust the plan put forward by the School board because it is presented as the only option and we are asked to act immediately to approve without reasonable disclosure of information. Planning is a critical element in any successful business or school. Good planning principles include looking at multiple options. The school board has presented the community only one option and it is to immediatly build to a capacity that we may not see until 2015. Why?
Rationally, other options should be considered. As an example, why not build out the additional classooms to the existing Junior High now (for at least $15 million less than the $18 million in the referendum) to create more space immediately and stay away from high interest premium bonds? Under this option, we can reduce class sizes now and it would give us time to see how the actual housing market will evolve before we make a commitment that creates very high debt for the next 2 decades plus. In the meantime we could pay down our current debt to position the district much better financially. Why do we have to react immediately and build school capacity at a level we may not see in a decade? Not seriously looking at the options is not only shortsighted, but it may get our district into serious economic trouble.
Mr. Huerth, I have enjoyed reading your post on this blog. Your last one could have been signed by Steve Todd given the tone is a little bit defensive...but I understand why, given the questions that are being raised about this referendum. ...in fact, it would save time and help our community if Steve would step out from behind the curtain and disclose important information that is driving this issue. I believe, in the best interest of all the residents, that Mr. Todd should present his assumptions to the community and disclose his rationale for choosing the path he is recommending in this referendum. We need to have insight on the source information and planning assumptions that are driving Steve's recommendation to the community. Anything less is misleading and brings into question motives and competency. Steve, no need to hide behind Mr Huerth...we elected you and the rest of the school board. All we want is the assumptions that support your figures and disclosure of the options you considered. Finally, we would like to understand why you are driving the option proposed through the referendum instead of other alternatives. Please understand that I will work to get this referendum passed if your assumptions (EAV, school cost, build out timelines, etc.) are realistic and the best option for our community.
Steve, this is a reasonable request of a public official...why is it not being answered?
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Anonymous, at 9:02 PM
I came onto this website and the pg46 site to hear both sides of the issues. To make an educated decision. On this site I have seen a lot of misleading information. I'm a teacher and the salary on thechampion.org is not what I get paid. The salaries listed include pensions, extracurriculars, sometimes insurance, etc. I know teachers who are department chairs, teachers and athletic directors all at the same time. Of course their salary will be larger, but the website doesn't break it down for you. I'm sick of people criticizing teachers for what they make. Yes teachers may get time off but they work a ton of hours during the school year and they don't get over time for that. Do you really think making $35,000 coming out of college is overpaid?If it's such an easy job that pays you for doing nothing, then why don't you do it?
Also, there is a huge difference in having 24 kids in a class as opposed to 30. Try it some time and you'll see.
So on that note.
I guess I'm voting Yes, because now that I've seen misleading information on this site I'm sure everything is probably wrong as well. Nice Job!!!!!!!!!
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Anonymous, at 11:32 AM
Hey Teacher!
Everyone realizes that when the class has 30 you get an aide so there are 2 adults to 30 kids. However no one on either side wants to see class sizes near that amount. But building a school we cannot afford right now is not the only option.
This referendum is about building a school and what's best for the kids, not about you. The stuff about teachers on the blogs was the amount of increases in 2004-2005. Those were way out of line with the rest of the world then. I understood thechampion.org got its information from the state as filed by the school. Actually, I agree the starting salary is too low. The union scale makes it impossible to set fair salaries at the lower levels without over inflating the higher levels.
Your logic to vote YES is what is most scary. You saw something untrue or misleading in the blog? Check out the school's claims..."donated land", "tax rate won't increase", "141 kids coming in 2007-2008" before there is even water and sewer installed. Talk about misleading information!
Most importantly, check out other school districts that got into financial trouble by over aggressive spending. Check out class sizes and programs for the kids. That is what is at stake here.
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Anonymous, at 6:41 PM
The district is overspending???
Get your head out of your A-- !!
REFERENCE BELOW POSTED AT PG46.ORG
District has spread EAV over longer period of time than authorized (per entitled
build-out rate) build out. Assumed average of $35M (without 3% inflation) for 7 years of New Property EAV Growth not the 4 year build out rate as approved for developer.
Tall Grass of Prairie Grove, according to the Annexation Agreement, has a 3-year build out for Townhomes and a 4-year build out for Single Family units.
District assumed 1/7 of each unit type and corresponding children over a 7-year period.
Terra Cotta, according to Annexation Agreement, has unlimited build out for Age-restricted units and a 5-year build out for Single Family units.
District assumed 1/7 of each unit type and corresponding children over a 7-year period.
Assumed $35M per year x 7 years = $245,000,000 in New Property Growth EAV
Beginning in Tax Year 2007 through 2013
Entitlement (with 3% inflation) = $444,422,806 in New Property Growth EAV Beginning Tax Year 2007 through 2013
District has not assumed any Commercial EAV
Estimation of potential Commercial with 3% inflation rate
Beginning Tax Year 2013 through 2018
Commercial EAV estimated total = $21,992,594
District has not assumed any “Other Non-Developed Space” from current land open for development
Estimation of remaining space from Other Non-Developed areas with 3%
Inflation Beginning in Tax Year 2013 through 2018
Residual Open Space Development EAV = $90,557,738
District has not assumed any receipt of Impact Fees to “offset” Bonding
These Impact Fees amount to approximately $8,000,000.
Anticipate utilizing Impact Fee receipts to retire debt, base on level receive annually. Board resolution to occur annually to adhere to strict guidelines
stipulated in the Village Ordinance and laws that govern Impact Fees.
District has assumed NO new home or commercial construction. No
EAV related to this type of new construction was assumed beginning in TaxYear 2013 and continuing through the life of the financing.
Quote from Todd K of JP Morgan, “If the District’s assumptions are near anticipated levels of development (which they are very conservative); I cannot conceive the District not being able to meet and maintain the $ .24 B & I Fund tax rate. Unless the homes are not going to happen, then there is no way you can’t make the $.24 target.”
The District has not allocated any interest earnings on the $18 million during the construction draw period, which is estimated to be $1,305,924 under current interest rate assumptions and current draw assumptions.
The District decreased the market value increase of current homes from 6.02% (last five year average) to 5% from 2013 and thereafter for the life of the loan.
The District did not include any impact fees from any other future developments for the life of the loan. For example, the Tall Grass project of 320 children provides the district with approx about $5.2 million in impact fees. We will have capacity of well above 300 children from all our buildings after these developments.
The District did not include our current impact fee balances for any cost of this project. The current balance amounts to $253,463.
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Anonymous, at 9:43 PM
Good post. But some of these numbers keep changing.
According the the JP Morgan guy and the chart, the District is using a 9.4% increase factor on EAV per year starting in 2007. Verbally, they say 6.02% but the paper showed 9.4% per year. Also, the District shows 101 kids coming in from the developments beginning in 2007-2008 while the developer and village say there will not be sewer in place for 2-3 years so building home will not start until after that time. Lots of issues need to be overcome to get the sewer down to there. The seven-year build out is still in question based upon the developers' comments and the history in the area. If the build out is slower, there won't be the impact fees and there won't be the kids as projected but there will be the bond payments. Also, the $253,463 reserve of impact fees is not enough to cover the first year's bond repayment obligation of over $800,000 so if the district's projection is wrong, we still have to make up a short fall.
The District would be wiser to present a plan of gradual build out. Even though the board dismissed this, everyone knows it is possible, especially since Mary showed expansion plans for the junior high and elementary school. It would be a better use of the $253,463 impact fees to go toward expanding the existing facilities than an interest repayment on premium bonds because the forecasts were off.
But thanks for your post and your opinion. This is the best use of this blog.
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Anonymous, at 6:30 PM
I've received loads of information from the school stating the land for the new school building is "donated", "gifted", "given".
School officials say that impact fees amount to approximately $8,000,000.
At the school info sessions (which few people attend) I learned
that approximately $2,500,000 of these impact fees are being used as payment for the "donated" land.
How does "donated" = $2,500,000 ???
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Anonymous, at 9:17 AM
The last referendum requested by the school and passed by the tax payers generated an unexpected excess (WINDFALL)in tax revenues. The WINDFALL in revenues was much more than the school anticipated in its orignial request. What did the school do? Dr. Fasbender and school leaders chose not to disclose this windfall to the community and spend the it. Note that the revenue collected from the last referendum exceeded what was approved by taxpayers and Dr. Fasbender chose not to dislcose this information. Ask yourself, is this trustworthy behavior? In reference to Dr. Fasbender’s decision to not disclose to the community the unauthorized tax windfall, the Northwest Herald stated on November 18, 2005, “Since 2000, taxpayers in District 46 have been gouged.”
Now I have learned that in the school year ending in 1998, operating cost per student was $4,743. In 2005, the operating cost was $8024. Is the that the typical inflation rate for most people? What is this additional money used for?
I believe that people need to take a hard look at the credibility of our school leadership. We are investing over $8000 per stundent in taxes. In a typical classroom, this adds up to over $200,000. Since 1998, the school has increased spending by nearly 70%. Is this reasonalble? Does it build trust with the community?
This is a serious situation. As citizens we need to make sure that we inform our friends and nieghbors about the poor decisions and performance of school leadership. We need to get the vote out!
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Anonymous, at 7:50 PM
Tom,
The assumptions are conservative...How so? This issues goes well beyond assumptions. Please do not trivialize trust and truth in this situation.
A 70% increase to operate the school in only 6 years...come on! This is no way to run a school. How can we trust the administration? Please look to their past behavior to forecast the future...we pass referendum and it generates a WINDFALL in taxes. School leadership decides to spend the WINDFALL money without informing taxpayers. This is not trustworthy! Why take out a high interest loan when we can add significant capacity to the existing structures at a fraction of the cost? Dr. Fasbender has been very misleading with information...and the referendum does not pass the common sense test. Not only should we vote no...we need to get rid of this schoolboard and Dr. Fasbender!
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Anonymous, at 6:22 PM
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